Doctors are smarter than nurses


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A friend of mine is currently training to be a geriatric nurse with a secondary school certificate. She always tells me that her lecturers, or I would call her teachers, say that the training is so good and that after three years of training you can call yourself "half a doctor". Another friend is training to be a physiotherapist where she is told they learn as much as a doctor. If I look at what they are doing in their training is the lowest level (care for the elderly)
How can this happen? During my CPP I also saw nurses who felt they were on a level with a doctor in terms of their knowledge. They couldn't understand that the doctor deserves more and has a better reputation than them.

So what I can tell from various internships is the nonsense. Especially related to the care of the elderly. If a resident / patient is sitting crosswise, the doctor is called immediately. They do very little themselves. But I also heard that the training should become more sophisticated so that she comes on the same level as in nursing.

* head shake * If you look at many a patient from a nursing home, or if you have even tried to talk to a nurse about the anamnesis, you dare to question this assessment. Of course, there are fit carers who have acquired a good knowledge of everyday matters through years of experience and, above all, an interest in the job. Then, when it comes to exactly that, they are sometimes better than a young assistant doctor. BUT unfortunately, unfortunately this is more the exception than the rule. If I go through my head again, what the nurses in my last clinic did not know a week before the exam ... Elementary things, I just say!
It can look a little different if you use the med. Looking at assistant professions. A physiotherapist really has very specialized knowledge in his field, some of which a doctor cannot provide. The same applies to orthoptists, MTAs of all classifications, etc. This knowledge, however, only applies to their special field. Everything else is only touched upon as far as necessary. Therefore "half doctor" is a little exaggerated even in this case ... :-))

be glad that they want to call themselves at least only half a doctor. In my first KH internship, all the nurses felt smarter, smarter and better educated than the doctors ;-)

(No, I don't mean to say that nurses are stupid or that everyone is like that. This is just my personal experience in a particular hospital :-))

Maybe it's because most doctors come across as arrogant and the nurses or others react to it ...

Hmm, here you can ask yourself which came first: the egg or the hen. I mean: who came up wrong here first? The arrogant doctor (actually in the minority) or the cocky nurse who knows everything better? :-))

I say that both "races" occur equally often ....: -nothing

Well, since I have some insight, nurses are neither half doctors, nor are doctors good nurses!

Medicine and nursing overlap, but they are different subjects.

The basic knowledge certainly helps and as a nurse you have seen many diseases and symptoms that others only know from books.
But the claim that geriatric nurses are synonymous with half a doc is - sorry - ridiculous !!

greeting: opinion

The arrogant doctor (are actually in the minority)
You forgot the irony tags. ;-)

You forgot the irony tags. ;-) Not necessarily. There are certainly as many arrogant doctors as arrogant garbage drivers ... :-))

There are certainly as many arrogant doctors as arrogant garbage drivers ... :-))
90%? I would not have thought that there are so many! * sfg * :-))

90%? I would not have thought that there are so many! * sfg * :-)) I'm slowly becoming glad that I don't work in the capital of the Nebelreich. That must be terrible there ... :-))

So you really shouldn't take the saying seriously, even in nursing I wouldn't see it as being half a doctor after training,
As has already been written, these are 2 different professions and only overlap in places.

Of course, a nursing student learns a lot of medicine, but always more superficially than the students, but we only have 1 1/2 years of theory, the rest is on changing practical assignments, so the possibilities are of course limited.

If at all, one can speculate whether an interested, experienced, well-trained nurse can sometimes make better decisions than a new doctor,
but this is the case in many professions and does not change the fact that one is a doctor and the other is a nurse.

PS:
The fact that a geriatric nurse claims that, of all people, has had very bad experiences with them in terms of specialist knowledge ...

I've only had good experiences so far. all over. all people are dear. stop worrying about such a children's birthday party ...

by the way:

At my KPP I noticed how a (pregnant) sister asked the doctor which organ is on the right side of the upper abdomen ... (the baby was a bit uncomfortable for the mother)

just read the first post and laughed limp ... this friend should just keep thinking about it ...


I claim that both "races" occur equally often ....: -nothing

Well, since I have some insight, nurses are neither half doctors, nor are doctors good nurses!

Medicine and nursing overlap, but they are different subjects.

The basic knowledge certainly helps and as a nurse you have seen many diseases and symptoms that others only know from books.
But the claim that geriatric nurses are synonymous with half a doc is - sorry - ridiculous !!

greeting: opinion

Exactly: - opinion !!
It is certainly true that a nurse has a "clue" about medicine, but she could never replace the doctor!
Care is not to be equated with medicine.

which station? : D ...
1A ...: -top

I see it this way: the doctors can't without the nurses, the nurses without the doctors, the doctors without the mtas, the mtas without doctors, the physios not without the ... etc. some are pretty stupid without the other there. a ward without a doctor would go just as wrong as a ward without care or cleaning women / men, etc.
in the end, the "workplace" remains the patient. whether you like it or not - you work together and are "colleagues". when I get the eternal "achiba are better than you!" I hear myself wondering what the cause is. frustration with your own job? envy? fear that you are NOT better?
and in order to feel better, you harass those under you. that's why civilians and interns will probably do the s **** jobs until the end of the day. no matter what job. there is almost always someone above you and always someone below you. but you have to rely on each other. the head of ikea would also look very stupid very quickly if all of his björns were on strike at the cash registers.
in my opinion, it's great when you have a job that is fun and good at the job. whether this is the senior doctor or cleaning lady.
and then there is finally more to life than a career ;-)


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