What are you interested in architecture?

Architecture ... creativity?

Today every civil engineer who is gifted in design can be a better architect than a trained architect and, conversely, a math or economically gifted architect can be a great civil engineer. Architects adore each other like pop stars, or envy and despise each other. The envy and hate between my professors already struck me as ridiculous. I think civil engineers are more down-to-earth.
Incidentally, I studied architecture and am the son of a civil engineer. That's why I have two eyes on construction. An architect and an engineer eye;)

The reality is that in the profession of "architect" only 10% of the area of ​​responsibility is creative. And that is the preliminary design or the design phase. This work is usually done by the "boss" architects in the office. You can only design at work later if you either become self-employed or take part in competitions. Without a "name", nobody will be interested in a young architect's designs. First you have to get it into one of the magazines ...

The remaining 90% of the architectural work is cost calculation, tenders, financing, construction organization, site management, etc. and has absolutely nothing to do with design. Statics, fire protection, building physics are also part of the program. But civil engineers are better trained here. And for a career start in the field of architecture, I would say today that it would be the better choice in terms of career prospects.

As a bachelor architect you are no more than a better intern today. As in most graphic professions, you work your way from internship to internship. And many architectural offices also work with only a very small group of permanent employees. That's why you will initially have to make your way as a freelancer. But you have to do this for a year in order to be able to study the master's and only then can you submit building applications. Without this right, the architect is hardly worth anything.

But it is also the case that as a civil engineer you are entitled to submit building applications, but you are not allowed to call yourself an "architect". After graduating as a civil engineer, you could study architecture and all you have to do is go through the design subjects. However, every university is unique in what it recognizes and what it does not. Ultimately, you would be well qualified with these two degrees.

I think that maths in civil engineering is more difficult than in architecture is a fallacy. It's just more. The appropriate formulas to be used can be found in specialist books.
If you deal with form-finding and proportions (design theory) in architecture studies, it gets "crazy" when it comes to mathematics. Here the civil engineer can only watch. Fractals, the golden ratio, Fibonacci, the theory of harmony in music ... that alone can be occupied with for a lifetime. It's graphics, but also math and in my opinion the most beautiful form of it. So you can confidently become a civil engineer and get used to design theory. If you already know something about it and know how to use it at the beginning of an architecture degree, you can really crack something in your studies.

Incidentally, architectural theory and art studies are other fields that one could enter. A degree in civil engineering would not really be necessary for this. There are really many different perspectives and career prospects in both professions. Wants to be carefully considered. I wish for myself that I would have seen it that way before.

Toi toi and good luck on your way.